Philosophical Ideas Behind Their Time (updated)


Economist Alex Tabarrok (GMU) recently wrote of “ideas behind their time”.

He explains:

We are all familiar with ideas said to be ahead of their time, Babbage’s analytical engine and da Vinci’s helicopter are classic examples. We are also familiar with ideas “of their time,” ideas that were “in the air” and thus were often simultaneously discovered such as the telephone, calculus, evolution, and color photography. What is less commented on is the third possibility, ideas that could have been discovered much earlier but which were not, ideas behind their time.

Tabarrok’s post is mainly about physical inventions, and someone’s attempt to use AI to come up with a list of such inventions that appeared “behind their time”.

The results?

Most useful technologies tend to be invented quite quickly once they are possible—this is reassuring. The airplane, for example, could not have been invented before a high power-to-weight engine, which happened circa 1880 making the late 1880s the earliest feasible date for powered flight. Thus, the Wright Brothers (1903) were only just behind the earliest feasible date—and that is true for many inventions. The ideas very far behind their time include the stethoscope, general anesthesia and reinforced concrete and quite far behind are the Jacquard loom and canning.

The post made me wonder about philosophical ideas behind their time.

One might think that nearly all but the very earliest philosophical ideas are behind their time, in that it is possible that they could have been thought up by sufficiently smart and creative persons at any point in history. While the light bulb could not have come into existence prior to developments in glass blowing, metallurgy, and the control of electricity, philosophical thoughts aren’t like that. Anyone could have thought up “act so that the maxim of your act could be willed as a universal law” at any time.

But that response seems to misunderstand what the query about philosophical ideas behind their time is about. It’s not a question about logical or metaphysical possibility. Rather it’s a question about likelihood, about what it is reasonable to expect from particular types of persons in particular cultures at particular times.

Of course “reasonable to expect” is ambiguous.

And there are other relevant ambiguities, too, regarding the identity of ideas and the kinds of ideas the inquiry is about.

For example, it seems true that “a solution to the mere addition paradox” could only be offered after Parfit introduced the paradox in the 1980s (here’s one presentation of it). So if the “solution” showed up in, say, 1990, it doesn’t seem behind its time. But what if the solution is just the application of an idea that it wouldn’t have been unreasonable to expect someone to have conceived of 100 years earlier? Perhaps under one description, as a solution to the paradox, it is not behind its time, while under another a different description, as the insight that is brought to bear on the paradox, it is? And if it’s not the application of a more general idea, perhaps it is too narrow a case to be sufficiently interesting?

I don’t have answers to these questions. I just raise them to acknowledge that the inquiry itself is a bit fuzzy.

That said, it might be best to proceed by offering examples and seeing how satisfactory we find them.

Here’s one: Gettier problems. Gettier presented these in 1963. Arguably, though, they were invented by Bertrand Russell in 1948 [though see the first comment, below]. Early formulations of the conception of knowledge as justified true belief which these problems target go back to Plato. Gettier cases do not seem to rely on any conceptual, methodological, technical, or empirical achievements made over the past two millennia. So should we conclude that Gettier cases are about 2300 years behind their time?

I’m neither an epistemologist nor a historian of philosophy, so if I’ve made some error with the above example, please let me know.

But if the example is a good one, there is another question that we might benefit from looking into: why did it take so long for Gettier-style problems to arrive on the scene? More generally: what are the obstacles to philosophical progress?


UPDATE (5/15/26): Tabarrok posts at Marginal Revolution about this post, offering some of his own suggestions for philosophical ideas behind their time, including the is/ought distinction, the problem of induction, the acts/omission distinction, religious toleration, the analytic/synthetic distinction, and others.

guest

33 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
T.J.
T.J.
1 day ago

On Gettier, the SEP entry on the analysis of knowledge gives examples as early as 770 CE

Fritz Allhoff
Fritz Allhoff
1 day ago

Well I guess any proposal here should probably be controversial, so I’ll go with effective altruism. Pretty unpopular now; it’s just like Musk building rockets to Mars while homelessness goes unchecked, right? Trillions of future lives swamping the pain and suffering of current generations? And yet… maybe?

Kenny Easwaran
Reply to  Fritz Allhoff
22 hours ago

Is it unpopular now? It’s got more detractors now than it used to, but I don’t have a sense of it getting overall less popular.

Stan
Reply to  Fritz Allhoff
16 hours ago

EA requires inter alia modern accounting, financial systems, marginalism, RCTs, the idea that we may have duties of beneficence towards anonymous strangers and that these duties can be significantly demanding (I think we underestimate how insane that sounds to anyone outside of the bubble of Western secular and educated classes), and, precisely, a class of educated people who are wealthy enough to give about or more than 10% of their income.
Most of these conditions only existed together in the past 20 years, which is indeed when EA was invented, so it does not look behind its time to me.

Brian Weatherson
Brian Weatherson
1 day ago

Generalising off of what TJ said, one way to look for examples is by comparing traditions that developed ideas in different orders.

Many ideas in epistemology get pretty thoroughly worked through in Indian traditions hundreds, in some cases thousands, of years before they appear in the European literature. That’s why you get papers like Testimony as a Method of Knowledge in 1927, which appear fairly traditional from an Indian perspective, and decades ahead of their time from a narrowly European perspective.

Of course, you could do the same thing in the other direction, asking which ideas don’t appear in South Asian traditions for centuries after they appear in the west. And more generally the same thing works for any pair of traditions. But you’d need someone who know more about more traditions than me to provide examples!

Bilingual
Bilingual
1 day ago

Pretty much all of Frege’s work on logic was anticipated by Leibniz.

Max DuBoff
Max DuBoff
Reply to  Bilingual
1 day ago
Daniel Muñoz
Reply to  Bilingual
15 hours ago

Leibniz, interestingly enough, was ahead of his time on one of the most important mathematical concepts for science: that of a vector space. He noticed that there were limits to what you could do with scalars (as we’d call them now), and he tried to come up with an “analysis of situations.” But he couldn’t get it to work.

In hindsight, even though the concept of a vector is very simple, it’s hard to wrap your head around it in a world without quaternions or abstract algebra.

Marc Champagne
1 day ago

Jackson’s knowledge argument basically saying what Locke said centuries prior (see page 90 of https://philpapers.org/archive/CHACAT-21.pdf )

Eric Steinhart
1 day ago

Conceptual evolution is probably pretty similar to technological evolution, and might even be much harder.

The history of mathematics provides plenty of cases where conceptual evolution was really hard and took an enormously long time. It took an enormous amount of time to develop positional number systems. And an extraordinary amount of time to develop the predicate calculus and modal calculi. Likewise for Turing machines.

These are symbolic technologies, which depend on earlier symbolic technologies. You need a zero to develop a positional number system, and a high degree of standardization of positions in writing systems, etc. And the predicate calculus depends on a vast system of earlier symbolic technologies. (It might be that standardization, which is a social issue, plays a huge role here.)

Probably similar points apply to philosophy. I don’t think we have a clue about the obstacles here. We probably can’t have a clue, because if we did we wouldn’t have the obstacles. Lots of weird loops here.

Graham Harman
Graham Harman
22 hours ago

I’ve found that quite often, philosophers (like creative writers) effectively synthesize the original insights of two, maybe three forerunners, and hence cannot appear prior to those forerunners. One literary example would be Harold Bloom’s claim that Faulkner, Fitzgerald, and Hemingway each emerged by hybdrizing Joseph Conrad with a different second influence (Melville for Faulkner, Henry James for Fitzgerald, Mark Twain for Hemingway). I don’t have a clear philosophical analogue to offer at the moment, but would bet they are there.

Patrick Lin
Patrick Lin
22 hours ago

If “behind the times” includes ideas that might be accepted by future people but not by the world at large now, then this can be a prediction game, and here’s one:

National borders are artificial and tribalistic in a bad, ultimately self-defeating way. The fortunes of people in a globalized world are entangled, and we need to expand our domain of concern to include other cultures and societies.

This isn’t a new idea per se, but just one that doesn’t have much uptake now. Others have made the case for open borders already, e.g., in The Atlantic here (or here over the paywall).

Does that count? If not, I don’t know how we can verify that no one has ever had a particular idea before in the history of ideas…

Nicolas Delon
Nicolas Delon
Reply to  Patrick Lin
19 hours ago

I may be misunderstanding but I think an idea is behind its time if *past* people could have formulated it earlier than it actually appeared.

Open borders has had advocates for a long time. It’s neither behind nor ahead of its time.

Patrick Lin
Patrick Lin
Reply to  Nicolas Delon
17 hours ago

I think you got it correctly, which was also my initial understanding. But here’s the problem I’m worried about:

Say I offer X as a modern-day idea that’s behind its time. On that understanding, the implication is that no one in the past has ever had or conceived of idea X, though they could have and maybe should have. But I don’t know how that can be demonstrated or asserted with much confidence.

So, if we expand our understanding to include “past people could have embraced the idea earlier than they actually did”, then predictions about future ideas that aren’t embraced today might count?

I could be wrong about all this…

Nicolas Delon
Nicolas Delon
Reply to  Patrick Lin
7 hours ago

I agree—counterfactuals are fraught.

Mark
Mark
22 hours ago

The essentials of the Mere Addition Paradox / Repugnant Conclusion are present in The Methods of Ethics. Sidgwick writes:

Assuming, then, that the average happiness of human beings is a positive quantity, it seems clear that, supposing the average happiness enjoyed remains undiminished, Utilitarianism directs us to make the number enjoying it as great as possible. But if we foresee as possible that an increase in numbers will be accompanied by a decrease in average happiness or vice versa, a point arises which has not only never been formally noticed, but which seems to have been substantially overlooked by many Utilitarians. For if we take Utilitarianism to prescribe, as the ultimate end of action, happiness on the whole, and not any individual’s happiness, unless considered as an element of the whole, it would follow that, if the additional population enjoy on the whole positive happiness, we ought to weigh the amount of happiness gained by the extra number against the amount lost by the remainder. So that, strictly conceived, the point up to which, on Utilitarian principles, population ought to be encouraged to increase, is not that at which average happiness is the greatest possible,—as appears to be often assumed by political economists of the school of Malthus—but that at which the product formed by multiplying the number of persons living into the amount of average happiness reaches its maximum.

Daniel Muñoz
Reply to  Mark
15 hours ago

Definitely a farsighted passage, but I think of the MAP as involving at least two further innovations:

1. The idea that equality doesn’t count against “merely adding” happy people.

2. The idea that equality should be decisive in (i) same-number cases when (ii) the more equal population is also the one with higher total welfare.

What makes Parfit’s presentation so important is his sensitivity to the considerations for and against each pairwise evaluation, which I don’t think Sidgwick was in a position to grasp.

Eddy Nahmias
Eddy Nahmias
20 hours ago

Human slavery is wrong. Seems like philosophers should have converged on that ethical discovery a lot earlier and more often.

Paul
Paul
Reply to  Eddy Nahmias
7 hours ago

Agree completely. I’ll add another. That it is wrong to keep animals in extreme confinement and misery and then transport them and kill them in horrible ways just to consume them (when we’re at least as well off without consuming them) also seems like something philosophers should have converged on a lot earlier. Although factory farming didn’t emerge until around the 1920s, people had been subjecting animals to terrible suffering long before then.

Last edited 6 hours ago by Paul
Nicolas Delon
Nicolas Delon
Reply to  Paul
3 hours ago

A lot of arguments for vegetarianism (and animal minds) date back at least to the Ancient Greeks, not to mention Jainism.

Mark Raabe
Mark Raabe
Reply to  Eddy Nahmias
13 minutes ago

True. But when convergence should have occurred is different from when discovery should have or could have occurred.

Nicolas Delon
Nicolas Delon
19 hours ago

Not quite a philosophical idea, nor an original take from me, but in retrospect it’s remarkable that we had to wait until Darwin for the theory of evolution by natural selection. (Admittedly breeders had tacitly grasped it through artificial selection, as Darwin recognized.)

Jamie Dreier
Jamie Dreier
Reply to  Nicolas Delon
19 hours ago

Yeah, that’s a good one.
“How stupid not to have thought of it oneself!”

philosopher of bio
philosopher of bio
Reply to  Nicolas Delon
10 hours ago

Well, it’s probably largely because we didn’t have a good understanding of heredity. Intuitive mechanisms of heredity, like that offspring blend their parents’ traits, seem inconsistent with the idea that selection can result in completely novel forms. Breeders could create a lot of superficial variation, yes, but they didn’t normally seem to be making new species. Natural selection being able to drive speciation or the proliferation of highly novel variations was entirely speculative until we had a decent understanding of genetics (and developmental systems), which is pretty recent.

I’d argue that Darwin was ahead of his time in that his theory required mechanisms of heredity that were unknown to him.

Also, the mechanism of natural selection is far from conceptually intuitive. I’ve discussed evolution in philosophy classes with premedical undergrad students (i.e., students who already had uni level biology coursework) and the majority thought they understood it but did not.

Chris Stephens
Chris Stephens
Reply to  Nicolas Delon
2 hours ago

Don’t forget about Wallace!

Also relevant (from 1753) is Diderot “If one considers the animal kingdom, and particularly the mammals, there is not one that lacks the functions and the part, particularly internal ones, that are entirely similar to the others; so much so that it is easy to believe that there was a first prototype for all of them, for which nature merely elongated, shorted, transformed, multiplied, or obliterated certain organs”

Of course, with empirical ideas, it is one thing to come up with the idea, and another to get the evidence for it.

Mendel’s theory of hybrids famously sat with uncut pages in Darwin’s library. Bateson argues that if Darwin had read Mendel, it would’ve changed the development of evolutionary theory significantly (but see Radick’s book, Disputed Inheritance for skepticism about this).

Daniel Muñoz
15 hours ago

Ross’s concept of a prima facie duty: something that tends to be a duty if not outweighed.

You can see glimmers of the idea in Sidgwick, but as Tom Hurka has convincingly argued, Sidgwick didn’t really get it.

I’d be curious to know if any other ethical tradition came up with the basic idea prior to Ross. (I know that Prichard on “claims” in 1912 was a precursor, but I don’t know if, say, the Confucian tradition has anything like a PFD.)

Matthew Duncombe
Matthew Duncombe
12 hours ago

Three examples from Ancient Greek Philosophy (my area) that have puzzled people.

(1) Berkelean Idealism is a famous case. Plato in the Theaetetus and the Cyrenaics seem to have all the pieces and get pretty close at some points and it’s controversial, but they never really arrived at the idea that the world is wholly mind-dependent.

(2) absolute time. Ancient Greek philosophy has lots of items that are independent existents, but time always depends on something else. No one seems to have connected space and time and argued that both are absolute.

(3) maybe more controversial, but robust counter-factual modality doesn’t really come up in Ancient Greek philosophy. The idea of logically Possible worlds seem never to have come up even though they had the ideas of logical consistency between propositions, the idea that consistent propositions can all be false and that modalities can behave as sentential operators.

Just off the top of my head! Let me know if anyone has any counterexamples!

Matthew Duncombe
Matthew Duncombe
12 hours ago

Oh! I forgot a big one:

(4) Classical logical consequence!

That is necessary truth preservation is necessary and sufficient for logical entailment. I don’t know an ancient logic that is classical, but there are lots of funky non-classical logics.

Prove me wrong. (If you’re going to say Philo, his propositions can change truth value over time)

Alex Guerrero
5 hours ago

I think that lottocracy (my name for the use of random selection, sortition, rather than election as the central selection mechanism for democratic political systems that use representatives) seems like a good case for a philosophical idea that is behind its time.

Sortition was actually used prominently although not exclusively in Ancient Athens, has a few appearances in India and medieval Italy, and later in Germany and Switzerland, and is in the conversation a bit around the era of democratic revolutions in France and the United States in the 18th century, but basically gets erased from the democratic map after those revolutions opt for elections as the core selection mechanism. Bernard Manin argues, convincingly, that this was due in part to the inegalitarian strains in those revolutions, as well as fear about turning too much power over in ways that would be unpredictable and disorderly given extant class divisions. Some discussions see it as unworkable at the scale of larger nation states.

Throughout much of the last several hundred years, philosophers and democratic theorists almost entirely ignore sortition, despite its central place in discussions in Aristotle and Plato, and despite the ongoing presence of randomly selected juries in the US and elsewhere. Even the more recent resurgence has been driven by practitioners and reformers actually building citizens’ assemblies, followed by academics in political science, with philosophers pretty late to the party.

Owen Flanagan
Owen Flanagan
Reply to  Alex Guerrero
47 minutes ago

Alex, I tell this story in a book from 2002. The Zinnser book is called *Rats, Lice, and History.*
Consider Hans Zinsser’s account of the process of choosing the mayor in Hurdenberg, Sweden: [I]n Hurdenberg in Sweden, . . . in the Middle Ages a mayor was elected in the following manner. The persons eligible sat around a table, with their heads bowed forward, allowing their beards to rest on the table. A louse was then put in the middle of the table. The one into whose beard it first adventured was the mayor for the ensuing year.

Amy
Amy
4 hours ago

Probability theory was an extraordinary late arrival in intellectual history, especially since gambling is probably about as old as time.

Amy
Amy
4 hours ago

When was modal logic first investigated?